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	<title>Comments on: Venture Capital in China 一个老外VC对中国的看法</title>
	<link>http://shaoblog.com/2008/01/14/hornik/</link>
	<description>邵亦波的blog：创业与创投之间</description>
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		<title>By: jesea</title>
		<link>http://shaoblog.com/2008/01/14/hornik/#comment-2190</link>
		<author>jesea</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 04:56:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://shaoblog.com/2008/01/14/hornik/#comment-2190</guid>
					<description>沙发:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>沙发:)</p>
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		<title>By: 天天基金网nag</title>
		<link>http://shaoblog.com/2008/01/14/hornik/#comment-2193</link>
		<author>天天基金网nag</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 08:25:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://shaoblog.com/2008/01/14/hornik/#comment-2193</guid>
					<description>不错，好！！</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>不错，好！！</p>
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		<title>By: 天天基金网</title>
		<link>http://shaoblog.com/2008/01/14/hornik/#comment-2194</link>
		<author>天天基金网</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 08:25:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://shaoblog.com/2008/01/14/hornik/#comment-2194</guid>
					<description>不错，好！！！！！！！！！！！</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>不错，好！！！！！！！！！！！</p>
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		<title>By: 博客部落blogblo</title>
		<link>http://shaoblog.com/2008/01/14/hornik/#comment-2195</link>
		<author>博客部落blogblo</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 09:54:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://shaoblog.com/2008/01/14/hornik/#comment-2195</guid>
					<description>trust和scalable 依然最重要,不过我想国外的VC很多也是抱着快速收钱的想法来的,很少真正做早期</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>trust和scalable 依然最重要,不过我想国外的VC很多也是抱着快速收钱的想法来的,很少真正做早期</p>
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		<title>By: 高十二</title>
		<link>http://shaoblog.com/2008/01/14/hornik/#comment-2196</link>
		<author>高十二</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 10:40:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://shaoblog.com/2008/01/14/hornik/#comment-2196</guid>
					<description>E文啊，E文。</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>E文啊，E文。</p>
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		<title>By: caocao</title>
		<link>http://shaoblog.com/2008/01/14/hornik/#comment-2198</link>
		<author>caocao</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 07:12:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://shaoblog.com/2008/01/14/hornik/#comment-2198</guid>
					<description>占个座先</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>占个座先</p>
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		<title>By: wz</title>
		<link>http://shaoblog.com/2008/01/14/hornik/#comment-2207</link>
		<author>wz</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 16:15:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://shaoblog.com/2008/01/14/hornik/#comment-2207</guid>
					<description>刚刚上网的时候看到babytree的求贤榜，当时在想，如果想进宝树，在王总的那篇blog后留言，谈些自己对宝树的看法，可能比投简历成功的概率更高。

过会儿又联想到，如果想融资，那么在您这留言是否也会比寄商业计划的成功概率高呢？

商业计划太长同时也不方便在这里写，写点我对babytree的认识吧。我想，无论做什么网站，其中的“道”都是一样的，这多少也能反应出我对创业、对做互联网、对做社区的一些理解：

关于文化
最开始关注宝树的时候并不认为它会成功，觉得王总有些过于理想化，风花雪月多于真枪实弹。直到看到babytree generation那篇post，我开始相信，宝树不仅会成功，而且能成为一家伟大的公司。做社区，最根本的是文化；做公司，最根本的也是做文化。有了文化这块基石，宝树定会像apple一样，成为一家有灵魂的公司。

关于战略及商业模式
从本质上说，宝树与邵总之前的易趣一样，都是在经营一个社区。社区中的用户从最初的交流开始，慢慢产生信任，直至互相之间形成影响力。宝树未来的商业价值就是基于社区中用户间的信任关系及客户对宝树这个品牌的认可上面。至于战术层面的问题就要结合公司内部资源、外部产业产业环境及竞争对手的动向来制定。

关于互联网
web2.0也好，1.0也罢，互联网公司，本质上也是公司。如果有机会，我希望自己以后是做互联网的生意人，而不是做生意的互联网人。追时髦、炒概念，最多是为达成某种目的手段，互联网公司的最终目的仍旧是赚钱。

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写了这么长不相关的内容，言归正传。

我正开始着手做网站，计划在未来的2、3个月内开始融资。融资的金额大概在200万人民币(经计算达到公司下一个里程碑需要资金的2倍）。从身边的朋友那里也能融到这笔钱，但除了钱，我更希望从投资人那里得到其他方面的资源，比如：邵总对社区的理解、对创业企业每个阶段经验教训及日后融资时财务方面的专业知识。

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我做销售出身。在销售过程中，很重要的一点是第一次见面时给客户的“震撼力”。所以，请原谅我用留言的这种方式毛遂自荐。

不知道能否有机会向您介绍我的项目？</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>刚刚上网的时候看到babytree的求贤榜，当时在想，如果想进宝树，在王总的那篇blog后留言，谈些自己对宝树的看法，可能比投简历成功的概率更高。</p>
<p>过会儿又联想到，如果想融资，那么在您这留言是否也会比寄商业计划的成功概率高呢？</p>
<p>商业计划太长同时也不方便在这里写，写点我对babytree的认识吧。我想，无论做什么网站，其中的“道”都是一样的，这多少也能反应出我对创业、对做互联网、对做社区的一些理解：</p>
<p>关于文化<br />
最开始关注宝树的时候并不认为它会成功，觉得王总有些过于理想化，风花雪月多于真枪实弹。直到看到babytree generation那篇post，我开始相信，宝树不仅会成功，而且能成为一家伟大的公司。做社区，最根本的是文化；做公司，最根本的也是做文化。有了文化这块基石，宝树定会像apple一样，成为一家有灵魂的公司。</p>
<p>关于战略及商业模式<br />
从本质上说，宝树与邵总之前的易趣一样，都是在经营一个社区。社区中的用户从最初的交流开始，慢慢产生信任，直至互相之间形成影响力。宝树未来的商业价值就是基于社区中用户间的信任关系及客户对宝树这个品牌的认可上面。至于战术层面的问题就要结合公司内部资源、外部产业产业环境及竞争对手的动向来制定。</p>
<p>关于互联网<br />
web2.0也好，1.0也罢，互联网公司，本质上也是公司。如果有机会，我希望自己以后是做互联网的生意人，而不是做生意的互联网人。追时髦、炒概念，最多是为达成某种目的手段，互联网公司的最终目的仍旧是赚钱。</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<br />
写了这么长不相关的内容，言归正传。</p>
<p>我正开始着手做网站，计划在未来的2、3个月内开始融资。融资的金额大概在200万人民币(经计算达到公司下一个里程碑需要资金的2倍）。从身边的朋友那里也能融到这笔钱，但除了钱，我更希望从投资人那里得到其他方面的资源，比如：邵总对社区的理解、对创业企业每个阶段经验教训及日后融资时财务方面的专业知识。</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8211;<br />
我做销售出身。在销售过程中，很重要的一点是第一次见面时给客户的“震撼力”。所以，请原谅我用留言的这种方式毛遂自荐。</p>
<p>不知道能否有机会向您介绍我的项目？</p>
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		<title>By: kooyii</title>
		<link>http://shaoblog.com/2008/01/14/hornik/#comment-2208</link>
		<author>kooyii</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 08:41:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://shaoblog.com/2008/01/14/hornik/#comment-2208</guid>
					<description>"Unfortunately very few VCs in China have the experience and inclination to add value, particularly when the prevailing wind is “get rich quick”."

i agree with what u said,i think what chinese enterprise need most is the global resouce and experiences from VC, however, less could supply them~

David  fail to consider one thing, in jungle,he could hunt the biggest lion~</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Unfortunately very few VCs in China have the experience and inclination to add value, particularly when the prevailing wind is “get rich quick”.&#8221;</p>
<p>i agree with what u said,i think what chinese enterprise need most is the global resouce and experiences from VC, however, less could supply them~</p>
<p>David  fail to consider one thing, in jungle,he could hunt the biggest lion~</p>
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		<title>By: 喜悦家居网</title>
		<link>http://shaoblog.com/2008/01/14/hornik/#comment-2213</link>
		<author>喜悦家居网</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 10:09:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://shaoblog.com/2008/01/14/hornik/#comment-2213</guid>
					<description>不错 不错</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>不错 不错</p>
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		<title>By: 微服记</title>
		<link>http://shaoblog.com/2008/01/14/hornik/#comment-2214</link>
		<author>微服记</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 13:41:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://shaoblog.com/2008/01/14/hornik/#comment-2214</guid>
					<description>E文，看不懂。</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>E文，看不懂。</p>
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		<title>By: chloe</title>
		<link>http://shaoblog.com/2008/01/14/hornik/#comment-2221</link>
		<author>chloe</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2008 14:18:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://shaoblog.com/2008/01/14/hornik/#comment-2221</guid>
					<description>strongly suggest that u should set up a download center as term sheet blog did</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>strongly suggest that u should set up a download center as term sheet blog did</p>
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		<title>By: reason</title>
		<link>http://shaoblog.com/2008/01/14/hornik/#comment-2222</link>
		<author>reason</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2008 16:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://shaoblog.com/2008/01/14/hornik/#comment-2222</guid>
					<description>By cages for lions, I think David means that there are no enough protections for investors. As so many western investors and western moneys are flying in China market, the western rules and laws are not flying in, or even on their way.

You mentioned trust and I noticed that you have invested a company whose leader is someone you know very well.  I believe western investors would like to invest someone they trust too but they didn't  have such friends or networks, even they did, they still couldn't easily sign some documents not protected by certain rules.

It is really a golden time for local investors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By cages for lions, I think David means that there are no enough protections for investors. As so many western investors and western moneys are flying in China market, the western rules and laws are not flying in, or even on their way.</p>
<p>You mentioned trust and I noticed that you have invested a company whose leader is someone you know very well.  I believe western investors would like to invest someone they trust too but they didn&#8217;t  have such friends or networks, even they did, they still couldn&#8217;t easily sign some documents not protected by certain rules.</p>
<p>It is really a golden time for local investors.</p>
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		<title>By: 杨震</title>
		<link>http://shaoblog.com/2008/01/14/hornik/#comment-2224</link>
		<author>杨震</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2008 11:29:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://shaoblog.com/2008/01/14/hornik/#comment-2224</guid>
					<description>Bo大哥，
您好。
首先请允许我表达对你的敬意。尽管你离你的辉煌顶点还有很长的距离，但你已经是我们这批80后，出生在上海弄堂的年轻人的坐标。记得你在财富人生中对“幸福”的感想，一双儿女（真的都很可爱，祝福他们），一位美娇妻，江山不在掌中，在脑中，诚信，精明，伙伴，夫复何求。足见你是个有大智慧的上海宁。
"Follow the Value"永远都是不变的真理，但真正能区分“long term”和”get rich quick“的人，又能有几个呢？莫说是中国的VC,纵然是Sequoia Capital或是IDG那帮老头，又有几人能真正做到？凭心而论，Bo哥你，又能否做到哈？！这都是人性哈。
我是个创业团队的成员，网址先不在这里贴，因为希望你很快就能通过其他渠道了解到。创业很辛苦，而且受到生活中许多人的质疑。这种辛苦，只有创过业的人能明白，所以看Bo你的Blog已经逐渐成为我的习惯。从你对VC和新经济的理解里，我可以分享到很多恍然一悟或者知己的感觉。这是对我现阶段很大的一种放松。
希望在你40岁前，我28岁之前，可以有机会平静地向你显摆下我不足道的成功经历，然后一起在吴江路大吃一顿，一起”玩遍世界，吃遍上海“去！
dannyyang1212@hotmail.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bo大哥，<br />
您好。<br />
首先请允许我表达对你的敬意。尽管你离你的辉煌顶点还有很长的距离，但你已经是我们这批80后，出生在上海弄堂的年轻人的坐标。记得你在财富人生中对“幸福”的感想，一双儿女（真的都很可爱，祝福他们），一位美娇妻，江山不在掌中，在脑中，诚信，精明，伙伴，夫复何求。足见你是个有大智慧的上海宁。<br />
&#8220;Follow the Value&#8221;永远都是不变的真理，但真正能区分“long term”和”get rich quick“的人，又能有几个呢？莫说是中国的VC,纵然是Sequoia Capital或是IDG那帮老头，又有几人能真正做到？凭心而论，Bo哥你，又能否做到哈？！这都是人性哈。<br />
我是个创业团队的成员，网址先不在这里贴，因为希望你很快就能通过其他渠道了解到。创业很辛苦，而且受到生活中许多人的质疑。这种辛苦，只有创过业的人能明白，所以看Bo你的Blog已经逐渐成为我的习惯。从你对VC和新经济的理解里，我可以分享到很多恍然一悟或者知己的感觉。这是对我现阶段很大的一种放松。<br />
希望在你40岁前，我28岁之前，可以有机会平静地向你显摆下我不足道的成功经历，然后一起在吴江路大吃一顿，一起”玩遍世界，吃遍上海“去！<br />
<a href="mailto:dannyyang1212@hotmail.com">dannyyang1212@hotmail.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: 杨震</title>
		<link>http://shaoblog.com/2008/01/14/hornik/#comment-2228</link>
		<author>杨震</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 18:51:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://shaoblog.com/2008/01/14/hornik/#comment-2228</guid>
					<description>小弟刚正好又看到你的专访,突然感觉你即将成为一个人-----张良.
"皇帝"可以让王CEO他们去做,但成功背后必然是你居功至伟--"谋士+帝王师+说客+钱粮转运+关内候"(创业成员+战略调节者+PR+Financing Channel+董事).羽扇纶巾之间,互联网历史的轴轮已经被你给推动,人们的生活得到更好的改变.这种"帮人打下天下"的感觉,一定很爽.
Bo,加油,祝福Babytree和NovaMed好运!

All The Best</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>小弟刚正好又看到你的专访,突然感觉你即将成为一个人&#8212;&#8211;张良.<br />
&#8220;皇帝&#8221;可以让王CEO他们去做,但成功背后必然是你居功至伟&#8211;&#8221;谋士+帝王师+说客+钱粮转运+关内候&#8221;(创业成员+战略调节者+PR+Financing Channel+董事).羽扇纶巾之间,互联网历史的轴轮已经被你给推动,人们的生活得到更好的改变.这种&#8221;帮人打下天下&#8221;的感觉,一定很爽.<br />
Bo,加油,祝福Babytree和NovaMed好运!</p>
<p>All The Best</p>
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		<title>By: rod</title>
		<link>http://shaoblog.com/2008/01/14/hornik/#comment-2232</link>
		<author>rod</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jan 2008 10:36:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://shaoblog.com/2008/01/14/hornik/#comment-2232</guid>
					<description>是这个意思</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>是这个意思</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle</title>
		<link>http://shaoblog.com/2008/01/14/hornik/#comment-2236</link>
		<author>Kyle</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 02:11:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://shaoblog.com/2008/01/14/hornik/#comment-2236</guid>
					<description>今天又重温此文一次。对Add value的缺乏，有些同感。其实很多方面，包括为人，为官，经商--都有类似的道在其中。基本面是基础。</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>今天又重温此文一次。对Add value的缺乏，有些同感。其实很多方面，包括为人，为官，经商&#8211;都有类似的道在其中。基本面是基础。</p>
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		<title>By: brisky</title>
		<link>http://shaoblog.com/2008/01/14/hornik/#comment-2271</link>
		<author>brisky</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 08:09:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://shaoblog.com/2008/01/14/hornik/#comment-2271</guid>
					<description>师哥
您好！
我是华师大二附中09届的学妹，下学期是我们二附中的50年校庆，很荣幸能够在在校期间看到这个盛典，想必必您已经得知这个好消息了吧。我和另外一个同学被安排采访谭海音女士，但现在联系不到她，希冀能够得到您的帮助。不知道我们能否可以得到谭海音女士的e-mail地址，或其它的联系方式。我的联系方式：校园邮箱guzhuyun@hsefz.com 手机：13917489191
谢谢！</description>
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您好！<br />
我是华师大二附中09届的学妹，下学期是我们二附中的50年校庆，很荣幸能够在在校期间看到这个盛典，想必必您已经得知这个好消息了吧。我和另外一个同学被安排采访谭海音女士，但现在联系不到她，希冀能够得到您的帮助。不知道我们能否可以得到谭海音女士的e-mail地址，或其它的联系方式。我的联系方式：校园邮箱guzhuyun@hsefz.com 手机：13917489191<br />
谢谢！</p>
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		<title>By: 天天基金网</title>
		<link>http://shaoblog.com/2008/01/14/hornik/#comment-2646</link>
		<author>天天基金网</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 06:12:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://shaoblog.com/2008/01/14/hornik/#comment-2646</guid>
					<description>英文的，只能看个大概！</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>英文的，只能看个大概！</p>
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		<title>By: QQ</title>
		<link>http://shaoblog.com/2008/01/14/hornik/#comment-2801</link>
		<author>QQ</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 15:45:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://shaoblog.com/2008/01/14/hornik/#comment-2801</guid>
					<description>http://www.520zuan.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.520zuan.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.520zuan.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: VC</title>
		<link>http://shaoblog.com/2008/01/14/hornik/#comment-6823</link>
		<author>VC</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 08:33:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://shaoblog.com/2008/01/14/hornik/#comment-6823</guid>
					<description>Indeed, there will be a long way for China's venture capital industry to develop. I heard that the 11th China VC &#38; PE forum will be held in Shenzhen. It is rather international and it is a good plateform to understand Chinese VE&#38;PE environment and policy and to touch many VC firms and China's outstanding enterprises. I will attend this year, hoping is useful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed, there will be a long way for China&#8217;s venture capital industry to develop. I heard that the 11th China VC &amp; PE forum will be held in Shenzhen. It is rather international and it is a good plateform to understand Chinese VE&amp;PE environment and policy and to touch many VC firms and China&#8217;s outstanding enterprises. I will attend this year, hoping is useful.</p>
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		<title>By: 股吧</title>
		<link>http://shaoblog.com/2008/01/14/hornik/#comment-7134</link>
		<author>股吧</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 04:24:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://shaoblog.com/2008/01/14/hornik/#comment-7134</guid>
					<description>不错！！！很好！！！！！</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>不错！！！很好！！！！！</p>
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		<title>By: noname</title>
		<link>http://shaoblog.com/2008/01/14/hornik/#comment-8785</link>
		<author>noname</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 17:22:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://shaoblog.com/2008/01/14/hornik/#comment-8785</guid>
					<description>一</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>一</p>
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		<title>By: Gifts</title>
		<link>http://shaoblog.com/2008/01/14/hornik/#comment-10847</link>
		<author>Gifts</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 08:55:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://shaoblog.com/2008/01/14/hornik/#comment-10847</guid>
					<description>very good, very useful,thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>very good, very useful,thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: 科士威</title>
		<link>http://shaoblog.com/2008/01/14/hornik/#comment-18076</link>
		<author>科士威</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 15:37:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://shaoblog.com/2008/01/14/hornik/#comment-18076</guid>
					<description>不错 学习下 啊·~~</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>不错 学习下 啊·~~</p>
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		<title>By: v</title>
		<link>http://shaoblog.com/2008/01/14/hornik/#comment-18495</link>
		<author>v</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Mar 2010 12:33:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://shaoblog.com/2008/01/14/hornik/#comment-18495</guid>
					<description>v</description>
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		<title>By: DominguezOra28</title>
		<link>http://shaoblog.com/2008/01/14/hornik/#comment-24892</link>
		<author>DominguezOra28</author>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 May 2010 16:30:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://shaoblog.com/2008/01/14/hornik/#comment-24892</guid>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had a dream to make my organization, nevertheless I did not have got enough of money to do this. Thank goodness my close fellow said to take the <a href="http://lowest-rate-loans.com/topics/credit-loans" rel="nofollow">http://www.lowest-rate-loans.com</a>. So I used the secured loan and realized my dream.</p>
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